Banned from AllNurses.com, how's it go here?

[GitanoRN]

Following this further, what I can't comprehend is the following, if a cite is offer to nurses or future ones,to express their concerns and offer advise to fellow nurses why all the drama?. In addition, if someone decides that your opinion is not valid, or they don't agree with your statement conflict begins. Therefore, you're automatically banned from the cite, at times without any explanation, or they would post something on the lines of "Your post is being revised by a moderator" and that's the end. In my opinion it seems too trifle and a waste of ones precious time.

[ALFnurse]

You're still posting there, Gitano.....you must not hate it that bad, and you haven't been banned obviously. You post some good stuff....why would you worry about it?

[Adri2004]

As someone who is just starting in this career (still in school-cue advice column), I would like to thank you for this post. Everyone I talk to likes to take the soft, comforting approach to advice giving. But that's not what I (most youngsters) need. I appreciate your "forward, blunt, factual and frank" way of the world. This is my first day on nurse.com and I think it would be a great loss if you left.

Thanks again.

[Diana1980]

I was given 50 infraction points for practically no reason at all on allnurses.com while the 10 people insulting me received no warnings or infractions.

I wrote one person was doing "Ad Hominem and Appeal to Spite against my character" (in reaction to them insulting and misrepresenting me, this same person said I was delusional, a troll, illogical, knew nothing, silly, and on and on for a month) and I was given a 20 point infraction. This was their quote as why I received the infarction was for that sentence and enlarged the text for Harvard and Harvard Public Health University for emphasis. Maybe they do not like Harvard? The large text for an unknown university also referenced to was not reduced.

The person who continuously insulted me went unpunished.

Then more people ganged up on me, though I was supported a stance held by the American Nurses Association, Harvard, John Hopkins University, WHO, OECD, 30 Nursing organizations, and other reputable sources.

This same person dismissed Harvard and said "they were biased on the subject" as if they did not matter. One person who ganged up on me dismissed John Hopkins entirely. Three people insulted me with "chuckle, chuckle" and "you are confused, ect" while I was simply quoting a John Hopkins supported study. I found this to be disrespectful and on this particular thread I told the person who said they did not care about John Hopkins that they were "ignorant and narrow-minded if they would not look at the information published on the issue." This I believe was what lead to it going down-hill. I did not know who this person was, but apparently they have strong ties with the website and it appeared had an issue with me after this. They were labeled as a "guide" and I learned from other posts they are a director of a nursing home supposedly they claim (as if you know if it is the truth). A person laughed at me saying "I laughed so hard I spilled my fresco" and "I was knew and insulting old members does not go over well." This appeared to be a threat. Well it did not go well, this person was out to get me now even though 90 insults were hurled at me for supporting these various reputable sources.

You are not allowed to question healthcare practices on allnurses.com. I know that we are #38 in the world in healthcare (WHO) and in the 30's for total life-span OECD. I am very skeptical of Long Term Care facilities as I have heard numerous instances of abuse, they have one person caring for 40 people which is hazardous, the places are disrespectful to the people, and the environment is terrible. It is as bad as hospice (where I've heard is the place people go to die). I made some posts stating in-home healthcare is better and that I had worked in in-home healthcare, seeing the people prefer it as they feel more independent and that is the most like their previous life. This person from that other thread came to this one and started ganging up on me also as well as others who felt no one can criticize any health care facilities, though the thread was about a Dr. Phil nursing home abuse case. They were very angry that I wanted change from institutions to in-home health which I know is a better place for them physically and for their minds. I wrote we spend the least on in-home healthcare compared to many countries, yet are #1 spenders on pharmaceuticals and other areas, that we should respect the elderly more. I said nurses should question other nurses if they see that nurse abusing someone.

In another thread came the last straw. I questioned the response time of an EMT/ambulance, saying 30 minutes is far too long for two broken legs of an elderly person at a facility. I referenced to an article which referenced to cardiac arrest victims and their times of survival which depended on below 5 minutes and at most 6 minutes. It was called "Every second: a person dies" from USA Today. I said we need to provide more funding to close these disparities.

A moderator responded named Esme who criticized my comment, saying even if the ambulance comes sooner paperwork must be filled out before the person can be taken away in an ambulance to the ER. 30 minutes they said was "good time." I cannot believe that this Esme person would say paperwork takes priority over a patient receiving treatment. How is 30 minutes "good time" and that doesn't even include the trip to the ER and time for treatment. They then held a grudge against me and went to another thread I was posting in and gave me an infarction. They deleted a post I wrote and gave me a warning for 30 points when I posted I did not understand why it was deleted as it was just a list (which it was, a list of sources and I was asking why the other person did not listen to them, Harvard, physicians, nursing unions, and John Hopkins included, and if not them who did they listen to?)

More people criticized me and I saw the person from the first thread who I criticized for not listening to John Hopkins in this thread as well and joining in. I have no idea where these people come from and apparently they spy on your other posts because one insulter questioned my qualifications (not very much experience, except I have done in-home health, ect) which I had only posted about in a few posts out of many, so they much have searched thoroughly for this information to bring against me.

All in all, I tried posting and could not. All of my posts were said to be requiring moderation. I am, effectively, banned except for putting likes. I looked for a way to delete my account, but cannot. I cannot stand the way I was treated for wanting better care for people and using reputable sources while numerous people insulted me left and right, yet I got the axe.

This is not a friendly website, and I hope everyone knows that their is a hierarchy and if you step on anyone's toes who has been there a long time, a guide, ect, you will face the consequences for practically nothing at all. They will send the lynch mob after you. I hope not all nurses are blind followers who do not question positions and use reputable sources. If everyone is to simply agree with everyone else, who else are we to improve are atrocious numbers in terms of health care rank? How are we supposed to improve at all if their is no freedom of thought and new ideas?

I would stay clear of allnurses.com because they do not care about the people receiving care, but more about the nurses. There is a strange anti-patient, pro-nurse mentality which I feel is unhealthy for medical relationships and proving true healthcare for people in desperate need. If you recommend lowering the costs of medical devices and make them more movable they will chop off your head. I said if more people had access to medical equipment safe for use in their homes it could lengthen life-spans (think, if everyone had a defibrillator, which are safe to use for non-medical, but also Hoyer lifts, ect for long term care would be better if more affordable and available for everyone's benefit). I saw many anti-medicaid comments on the website too which laughed at poor people. Very disrespectful and saddening as I believe everyone is valued.

Do not question mental "illness" either as they are eating out of the hands of psychiatry. There is a large push to diagnose as many as they can and label it all genetic. I have personally seen many people who do not have problems yet are supposedly this or that. Right, how can you drive well, be a good parent, dress clean, talk perfectly, have a nice house and have something. I'm not sure if they were especially diagnosed or not or if they made it up themselves and are joking. Some people made the disturbing responses that people should go back to being locked up in mental institutions against their will before the 1970's (asylums, though they reject the term, but in reality it is the same thing). I said this is against freedom of thought, inhumane, grim, and primly influenced by social and political factors (which is absolutely true, just look at history).

I do not recommend allnurses.com if you care about people, have new ideas, and want to improve healthcare, or like Harvard or John Hopkins. There is a hierarchy there and they will punish you for a differing, independent, and free thinking opinion to help people and provide change and progress.

[ianursing22]

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion!that's all

[michfr]

I'm new to the world of nursing forums, but from this thread I won't be visiting allnurses.com. Any other good nursing forums I should know about?

[BostonTerrierLoverNP]

Gitano, my old friend from Allnurses.com, I have been banned for "drama." My "drama" was the sharing of my cancer diagnosis. TraumaRUS closed my thread, and banned me I suppose. I am glad I didn't waste anymore time with them (what little I have left is treasured), and shame on me for recieving the "emotional support 24/7" they "pretend" to offer. I was so close to paying for a membership upgrade since I was using the site more and more. I am so glad I was banned before they could. What a cold, disgusting, back-stabbing, and hateful bunch of no-bodies. Their "Guide," "Administrator," and "Asst. Admistrator," titles are the only ones they have probably ever been given.

Esme12, Aknottedyarn, tnbutterfly, brian, Dianah, sirI, traumaRUS, Sharpeimom, Spideysmom, Meriwhen, Cerriwhen, Wooh, Nursel56, VivaLasViejas, Nursefrances, Joanna73, and herring_RN- WHAT A LET DOWN!!!!!!!!! I thought these guys friends. I had a Rrrrruuuuuuuddddddeeeeeeee awakening.

I might be stuck in a room rotting away without the "support" of your site now, and very little else to do to occupy my time besides Internet Games, and Forum Posting, But what in the world is your excuses. I will Vomit for each of you, until you are all out of my system. What a cruel world I am leaving.

Thanks, Nurse.com, for the podium to spray that horrible tasting acid out. Thanks for "One Uping" Brian's Nazi Site, I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o dissapointed I didn't put in all those efforts here to begin with.

Allnurses.com is a toxic, over-moderated, spiteful, place where sirI and TraumaRUS get their rocks of by banning the best members. Wear your ban as a "Badge of Honor." They are demon who was exorcised from my life by a "higher" power.

NURSE.COM RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NurseEducator]

Hi and welcome,
I think you will find a bit more tolerance on this site. We welcome higher brain activity. Keep striving. So, as far as career advancement have you done any certifications through Nurse Credentialing?

[Jhawka19]

Yea, my first post was edited as well. They do have their guidelines and I suppose it is their right to do so, but it is discouraging and makes you float to another forum.
JH

[mamacass14]

I just got banned from allnurses. They are the reason nursing has the reputation it does among other nurses (and it's not good)

May they self implode and never come back.

[oldntiredRN]

Oh I have to add my 2 cents. I too just recently (Dec 2012) got banned from alnurses.com. I know all those guides and moderators your speak of. The one that banned me was traumaRUS. Esme and I had got into it a few months prior and deleted and editied a few of my posts. I called he/she/it on it and received 30 points for calling them on it. I can't even remember what the post was about that Esme edited and deleted. I told Esme on the thread to put my post back as I has posted it. That did not set too well. Esme has been on that site for years. Apparently, Esme was a nursing educatorwith a master's degree in Mass.; in a hospital with a critical care background. That's what Esme posts every now and then, and was let go of her(?) postion because of some "neromuscular disease" I have to wonder if it wasn't fibromyalgia and she was on narcs or lyrica and still is. Either way, Esme was let go of their Nursing education position. For the longest time, about 1 1/2 years, Esme would make very angry, venting posts about the terminating of nursing especially older nurses and her the inability to obtain disability. I even(PM's) her, asked her how she was feeling and threw a few job suggestions her(?) way( case managment, UR) that may be adapable to the "disablity" It was all no go, 'can't, tried that' excuses. The next thing I see is Esme is a "moderator" and boy did her tune change. I was getting infractions and warnings left and right. She was publically reprimanding me on the threads, editing, censoring me left and right. She shed her "boo-hoo- is- me" skin real fast.
I know the one you speak of about the nusing homes- I have gotton into it with that one too. "Cape cod mermaid?" She can get really nasty and defensive about her pee pot facilities. She too is from Mass. She is the know itall on LTC- so she thinks.She's a real pip. Makes one wonder how these people get these jobs and wonder more how they keep them. You are right, they are what's wrong with nursing- there is no rational discussion with them. "It's just, I said and that is it!!" and they toddle off with their sticks up their behind like the fools they are.
After traumaRUS started deleting and cencoring my last posts at Christmas time,I Had a word with that one too. I received a PM form that one who gave me 30 points and a warning. I told trauma to save the 30 points and stick their warning up their buttocks, that I wanted to be banned from the group of witches. I told them I wanted my account closed. I checked and my account was listed as closed, banned. when to be lifted- never. LOL

[ExamExpert]

Hey everyone READ. I posted a complaint on the Better Business Bureau. If any of you has paid for a membership and been banned, share your story there. Hit Allnurses where it hurts. I paid 30 bucks or whatever for their premium membership and my story is pretty much the same as all of yours. Even if you haven't paid them, file a complaint. These are customer service issues whether you paid them or not. I'm really appalled at what has happened to me on Allnurses. BBB!!

[ZuziRN]

Ok dear....let me to clarify something for you.

Better than anyone else I KNOW what means AN with whole that means it...

But before throwing the first rock and sometimes they deserve A MOUNTAIN, lol,THINK deep....why they did it?

For money, you will respond me....and you have perfect RIGHT...everything is FOR MONEY..but you are in US and you are Americans.... if you was on them place you would do it THE SAME...may be not me, that I have others values, but all of you would do THE SAME...for money!!

But more than money are many others issues there.

And many of you could see what you are able to see. Don't ask me for more.

Too many people, nurses or not CNAs, patients and relatives, many to many became kuku on daily basis because of what they want and what they could have for real.

AN is wrong...yup is wrong because play money, but all society is wrong because play the same but is a good resources for ALL normal minds people.

Some time kuku minds came with good minds together, is life and AN is a virtual part of life, so YES YOU HAVE there people with mental health problems, but them are on the street also .

Some time kuku minds try to use good ones... ask your self WHO USED WHO?

[giselle912]

HAHA! The people at allnurses.com are so negative. I cannot tolerate so many people putting others down. I got an infraction of 25 points today from sirI because I stood up to a nurse that said psych nurses don't matter. Seriously? Goodbye allnurses.com. You will NOT be missed.

Really? I work in a Psychiatric department and alas, most nurses from other departments think so too... oh, I'm Giselle by the way.
~gab

[giselle912]

Hi and welcome,
I think you will find a bit more tolerance on this site. We welcome higher brain activity. Keep striving. So, as far as career advancement have you done any certifications through Nurse Credentialing?

Hi! Could you please elaborate more on career advancement?
Thanks!
~gab