Whistleblower, how do you feel about it?

[Button2cute]

Hello,
This article was written in November 2008, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...patients.html#

The next set of articles were April 16 -17, 2009 http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...g-1669648.html

The nurse is the whistleblower on the medical facility and does not have immunity from back lashing by the medical facility and their nursing board. I did a paper on whistleblowers this past fall (a course requirement toward my msn). This woman placed herself in a dangerous position and she will face unnecessary repercussions by authorities, families, medical professionals and strangers. She will be associated with the abuse occurring in the facility. Therefore, it’s a vomiting situation to read about the lack of protection for the abused patients and those who revealed the truth about their employer.

The history, purpose and importance of the whistleblower were revealed through the hours of research conducted by me. I did not formulate an opinion and my classmates’ opinions were 100% negative. Basically, the top 3 arguments were harsher rules, less money and tougher advancement/changes were the outcomes from a whistleblower and no one wants one working with them.

The whistleblowers are very important to have in every employment, department, employee’s position, and etc. These whistleblowers are your watch dogs to bring awareness of wrong doing by everyone including the employer. They give everyone the opportunity to clean-up their dirty practice prior to going outside the institution due to in-house rules one must follows. Once the whistleblowers activate the chain of in-house rules and document them. No change occurs than the whistleblowers have the right to go outside the facility and alert/elicit the media, JCO or anyone to assist in the danger situation at hand. Therefore, each medical facility has established rules for a person or whistleblower to follow in reporting wrongdoings.

There are laws in the USA to protect the whistleblowers from back lashing by employers, employees, families, strangers, lawyers, etc. The whistleblowers are anonymous and protected. It will not be tolerated for someone to be abused for protecting the patients, public or a coworker.

Yes, changes occur due to the whistleblowers for the better. Regardless of, many people do not like changes, are set in their ways, become physical and verbal abusive with suspected coworkers and etc. and the employees/employers would have attend additional training and in-services to correct the wrong doing.

Yes, eventually the whistleblower will be exposed and squeezed out by the employer. Sometimes, a trial will be held to reveal the employer violated the whistleblower’s law. The verdict can favor the employer in most case and the whistleblower can be successful with a large reward from the employer.

I believe in the whistleblower’s theory and the need for them. If I was an employer, I cannot be everywhere at once and see everything as well. I need a good set of eyes that I can rely on and be truthful. I do not need a nark or back stabber and a telltale reporting to me. I would know corruption occurs on all levels and sometimes, for different reasons and I need to nip it as soon as it begins. I would be thankful for anyone who reports it and do not worry I would watch everyone, too.

It’s about the patients and doing harm to another. It’s not the money that will be lost because an employer will be able to make it up by decreasing the staff or increasing intake of patients or etc.

What are your feelings of whistleblowers?

Reference:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-20212841.html

http://www.unionvoice.org/vt_workers...lert_id=939748

http://www.medi-smart.com/whistleblower-protection.htm

http://www.nursingworld.org/MainMenu...eblower_1.aspx

[Anony1]

A nurse is not a nurse because a licensing board says they are. A nurse is defined by how they carry out the duties of a nurse. Mother Teresa was not a registered anything, except a nun in the Catholic Church. Margaret Haywood sounds to me like she was first and formost a patient advocate. She was a humanist, and humanity needs her. She is a nurse. She didn't stop being a nurse because the same system that keeps infirm human beings in appalling conditions says she's not a nurse. I think she will be the first nurse I put on my website as a "Great Nurse in History." Yes, I'm going to follow up on this.

I worked in a dungeon nursing home here on the Gulf Coast. I worked my ass off on my shifts and I did the very best I could with what I had, and my freakin conscience is clear. On my computer I have every letter I wrote to the DON describing the appalling conditions, but to no avail. When Katrina came, thank God, it wiped that place away. All that was left was a slab. A lawyer contacted me about six months later and wanted me to give evidence in a law suit against the place. I told him I have everything you want. I have detailed records, and I'd do anything to testify. I never heard back from him. I hope that given my credibility, my records, and my willingness (practically my begging) to take the stand, they were able to get a settlement against the owners. At any rate, God destroyed the place, and I'm glad He did.

[Button2cute]

Hello,

Understood.....

How do you feel about nurses who are whistleblowers?

[Anony1]

Hello,

Understood.....

How do you feel about nurses who are whistleblowers?

Sorry, I was so taken with the links about Margaret Hathaway that I completely ignored your academic research.

I'm for the whistleblower, so long as there's a real whistle to be blown. In this case there was. I may not be able to define justifiable whistleblowing, but I know it when I see it. Every instance of whistleblowing has to be judged on a case by case basis. I think every case of justifiable whistleblowing will follow the following pattern:

1. The whistleblower will try to correct the problem and will not exacerbate it.

2. The whistleblower will bring the deficiency to the management's attention.

3. When the management does nothing, the whistleblower will sacrifice the system in order to stop the problem the system will not correct.

Whistleblowers obviously have a Jesus complex, because they know full well that they will be crucified for their actions. A whistleblower thus better be on God's side, because being right and doing right is all they will have left.

[Frankreich]

Heads of organizations do not like employees to bring problems to their attention because that exposes their incompetence increase their liability and costs them money.

Once something wrong is identified and the many layers of involvement are peeled off it usually demonstrates that the identified problem is just a small piece of a bigger issue. There will always be an identified scapegoat and someone to blame and it's usually not the guilty parties. The whistle-blower is usually that person.

You have to be very careful if you are going to be a whistle-blower and I strongly suggest you seek legal counsel to assist you along the way.

[Button2cute]

Hello,

Edward...I understood your points very much. I am not sure about the religious part, though.

Frankreich,
Do you believe the laws to protect the whistleblowers in each state would be successful?
Would you ever be a whistleblower if you saw a traumatic incident occurring in your
facility?

You may not seek legal advice until you follow in-house procedure of reporting the
wrongful doing or harm to the patient or the public, first. If you do, than you have
violated the procedure and automatic fired. The employer must be given the opportunity
to correct the problem. Unless there is not a procedure in place and you have gave the
a written notice x3 to the supervisor, nurse manager and nurse director. Than you can
seek legal counsel.

Unfortunately, both of you are correct and the rules within the company must be followed prior of seeking outside help. The states have developed legal laws to protect the whistleblowers from the employers and coworkers. Many times, these laws are still violated and hard to prove by the whistleblower and their legal team. Therefore, the whistleblowers did improve the workplace as they lost their employment and had to seek employment at another facility or career.

[travelRN4life]

Hi there! I just thought whistleblowers have enough reasons for their actions. Might be for themselves or for the benefit of those they thought were victims. I just hope they do it for others rather than for their own insanities.

[Frankreich]

Hello,

Edward...I understood your points very much. I am not sure about the religious part, though.

Frankreich,
Do you believe the laws to protect the whistleblowers in each state would be successful?
Would you ever be a whistleblower if you saw a traumatic incident occurring in your
facility?

You may not seek legal advice until you follow in-house procedure of reporting the
wrongful doing or harm to the patient or the public, first. If you do, than you have
violated the procedure and automatic fired. The employer must be given the opportunity
to correct the problem. Unless there is not a procedure in place and you have gave the
a written notice x3 to the supervisor, nurse manager and nurse director. Than you can
seek legal counsel.

Unfortunately, both of you are correct and the rules within the company must be followed prior of seeking outside help. The states have developed legal laws to protect the whistleblowers from the employers and coworkers. Many times, these laws are still violated and hard to prove by the whistleblower and their legal team. Therefore, the whistleblowers did improve the workplace as they lost their employment and had to seek employment at another facility or career.

"Frankreich,
Do you believe the laws to protect the whistleblowers in each state would be successful?"

NO, not always.


Would you ever be a whistleblower if you saw a traumatic incident occurring in your
facility?

Yes, and have done so after seeking legal council.

You may not seek legal advice until you follow in-house procedure of reporting the
wrongful doing or harm to the patient or the public, first.

After discovery you can seek legal council when ever you want. The attorney will advise you on the steps you can take to protect yourself.

If you do, than you have
violated the procedure and automatic fired. The employer must be given the opportunity
to correct the problem.

Sometimes there is no in-house procedure of reporting or no one to report the problem to. Sometimes the employer doesn't think there is a problem.

Unless there is not a procedure in place and you have gave the
a written notice x3 to the supervisor, nurse manager and nurse director. Than you can
seek legal counsel.

SO, you're going to go along with the problem until you give 3x notices?

[Frankreich]

A nurse is not a nurse because a licensing board says they are. A nurse is defined by how they carry out the duties of a nurse. Mother Teresa was not a registered anything, except a nun in the Catholic Church. Margaret Haywood sounds to me like she was first and formost a patient advocate. She was a humanist, and humanity needs her. She is a nurse. She didn't stop being a nurse because the same system that keeps infirm human beings in appalling conditions says she's not a nurse. I think she will be the first nurse I put on my website as a "Great Nurse in History." Yes, I'm going to follow up on this.

I worked in a dungeon nursing home here on the Gulf Coast. I worked my ass off on my shifts and I did the very best I could with what I had, and my freakin conscience is clear. On my computer I have every letter I wrote to the DON describing the appalling conditions, but to no avail. When Katrina came, thank God, it wiped that place away. All that was left was a slab. A lawyer contacted me about six months later and wanted me to give evidence in a law suit against the place. I told him I have everything you want. I have detailed records, and I'd do anything to testify. I never heard back from him. I hope that given my credibility, my records, and my willingness (practically my begging) to take the stand, they were able to get a settlement against the owners. At any rate, God destroyed the place, and I'm glad He did.

Sorry about your bad experience at the dump. And I'm also glad that it is gone.

I don't agree about your nurse statement. A nurse is a nurse after they are educated for that role and licensed. The rest are wonderful people who help people in need.

[Button2cute]

Hello,

"Unless there is not a procedure in place and you have gave the
a written notice x3 to the supervisor, nurse manager and nurse director. Than you can
seek legal counsel.

SO, you're going to go along with the problem until you give 3x notices?"


Nope, and Yes.....Depending on the situation that is occurring and it will determine the quickness of my reaction to the situation. I would re-evaluate the situation as much as I could and making a decision each time.

If harm can be caused from the incident than I would tell all three that day and report it to an outside facility for assistance.

[gypsy55]

Does anyone have any insights as to what happens next? That is, after blowing the whistle.

[ZuziRN]

The whistle-blowers issue is a huge one and probably will be not change EVER if the legislation on place will be not changed.

America is a religious country and before to blow a whistle need to think WHY you do it.

Are two total opposite sides where your "RN skin will be pinned up"...lol

1.One you will be an INSANE evil who spited on the hand that give you to eat "bread and butter"-I hate this expression- and sell your "mom and father" to "enemy". Each society blame the one who has a duplicity conduct and behavior, because "IF YOU DID ONCE YOU WILL DO IT AGAIN".

2.Second in your innocence you will be pinned like and INSANE Christ believing that you could save people...when reality is that the system is WRONG.

Now I will tell you a truth learnt in my American life RN experience...TO WHOM you will whist-blowing?

The system is wrong, do you know that MAJORITY of DONs, administrative and high managerial positions at one point in them life WAS PART of STATE employee?

When I went to one of my bosses I received the response to my inquires I AM THE STATE!

Do you know that each and every one of them they STILL have links there?

The system IS WRONG! One hand wash another hand and both of them wash the dirty ass!

If you will whist-blowing NOW you don't have any chance MORE than put you and your family financial in danger.

They will cover them ass, cleaned up the dirty HIDING IT because HAVE ENOUGH HANDS to doing it.

And if they don have they will bring it over the seas.

When you don't have what to eat...you will kiss the hand who give you "bread and butter" INSTEAD TO BIT it!

No ONE wants to do nursing STRIGHT, but to do MONEY!

A man was fired because dared to whist blow. He had numerous attempts to straight thinks up before! I was there seen it....was an old experimented RN....."THEY" told to managerial team HIS NAME...was protection for him? He had just couple of years till retirement. Who will hire him?

I was in the position to help "to clean up" whist blowers and said NO, if you want to do it do it with OWN DIRTY HANDS! Not with mine!

A RUSSIAN Rn girl reported unsafe staffing ratio she was pretty and enough smart....the group didn't liked her, she was a wist-blower....she was fired...fails to fallow facility policy.

A strong powerful woman CNA was fired she was part of union she DARED to write report up-high and speak about wrong place policies. From up high someone sent her NAME to her facility.


My advice...DON"T WHIST- BLOWING, protect your own self TODAY you could NOT help, healthcare system TODAY is the most structured COSA NOSTRA system seen ever.

AND if you speak against....your NURSE CARRIER is DEAD!

[scotttyna]

Being a nurse or a whistle-blowers both are very responsible and respectful places. This is not like you just are doing your job it is much more than a job.