I know our ER's are overcrowded but .....

[reesern1963!]

I find the whole thing a little hard to believe. Isn't it typical that nurses get blamed for the whole ball of wax, though?

We have not heard the other side. Of course the 911 tapes sound bad; who knows what the whole story was.

FWIW, I had a pt call 911 from the lobby after he did not get his opiate of choice.

[reesern1963!]

I am not going to condemn the nurses of that hospital based on one side of the story. Period. Based on one side, it does sound terrible, but we do not know what the nurses were actually doing since they are not free to speak. What lay people define as "being ignored" and what ED staff define as "triage" are two separate things. And I have had people pull all sorts of drama in order to get bumped to the head of the line. I can't imagine what it must be like to sort through the masses of people who present for triage at a busy inner-city ED that is horribly under staffed and under funded. Unless you've done triage, you really cannot know how impossible it can be sometimes.

As for the guy I mentioned...we called the cops. He went to jail. End of story for him.

I would hope that we would all give each other the benefit of the doubt as nursing professionals. Doesn't look like it though, based on a lot of the posts here. Glad to know so many have all of the facts and all of the answers.

[Edson!]

I assure you, my mother has a vast amount of ER experience (well over 30+ years). She got along with just about everyone in all the places she has worked. Her view is that they biased their response with tje pt--she has seen it before, and so have I--and that it was not at all acceptable, given the pt's S&S. It's kind of like what it taught--and is now being more and more emphasized with regard to pain. The person-patient is the expert on his/her pain. Pts with acute symptoms must be triaged and evaluated w/o bias.

Regardless of the situation, bias may well have played a roll in terms of how this particular patient was handled. At the very least, send someone to check it out. Doing so may have made a difference for Ms. Rodriguez.

And as I already noted, obviously this hospital has more problems and complaints than the incident w/ Ms. Rodriguez.

I'm all for benefit of the doubt--with nurses as well as with PATIENTS. So, Yes. Giving Ms. Rodriguez "the benefit of the doubt" may have meant the difference between life and death.

[reesern1963!]

Well, I'm glad you and yourmom have all of the details and know what really happened. Thanks for sharing.

[Edson!]

reese, estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?


Sit vis vobiscum!

[peady2]

weren't you one of the posters who complained about people posting in other languages?

[Edson!]

It's Latin peady...all in fun...and that wasn't what I was "complaining" (your word) about.

Chill.

[peady2]

Yes, I know it's Latin-I studied it in high school for a year, so I had no trouble recognizing that fact. But latin is another language. I even know what it means. (quite inappropriate btw)And yes, you did complain that people were talking in other languages-even though it was "all in fun" when we did it.

Die dulci fruere.

[reesern1963!]

Don't waste your breath, peady2. It just ain't worth it; you should know better by now.

[Edson!]

No. You are wrong as to why & about what I was complaining. See, you always think you know when you really don't. But you will argue or instigate to the death and then continue to nitpick over some aspect of something, which you have slanted in your own mind. Why besides pettiness and perhaps boredom, only God knows.

Also, I'd ask how that is inappropriate, when I am simply trying to get ms. reese to relax...but apparently like you, she holds a grudge... As such, there are no words to give to her, one way or another, in any language. And well, we all know your incessant grudge...so you'll argie some spin on anything. But I do agree with about wasting breath...for those that harbor ill against another of others, well, yes, waste is putting it mildly.

Meanwhile, back to the topic...I will continue to uphold the ethics my mother taught me and that which has served me well in nursing and in other areas. I hope this situation will help others to think twice before they too quickly blow off a patient.

[Edson!]

Oh...and same to you...


Ave atque vale

[reesern1963!]

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[Edson!]

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